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Here’s some crappy pics of the backyard and the 20’x30’ garage footprint I layed our with deck boards. As you can see it doesn’t leave me with much of a yard. Things always look good in a drawing
4307KeymasterNice spaces!!!
I agree with going as big as a permit would allow, but the wife is not willing to give up the majority of the backyard. 20’x30′ garage leaves us very little yard space for the kid to run around in. Apparently 20’x30′ takes up too much space…. ARGGGG! can’t win .
I grabbed a bunch of deck boards that were laying around and created a 20’x 30′ footprint of were the garage would sit in the backyard (according to the survey drawing I posted on page 1) I was immediately shut down because of the footprint size. For me I could care less about the backyard that’s left, but she does not share my ideals. It would leave no room for a garden or swing set or running around. I agree there wouldn’t be enough room left and I can’t just think of my selfish desires.
I also agree going vertical. Id definitely design a space with a car lift in mind. Legally I can’t exceed the house peak height. I’d have to contact the city about that. I know someone that built a garage and they were limited to a certain height and could not put a lift in because of the height bylaw.
The idea of moving my shop out of the basement is to free up more storage room that we desperately need. Its crazy how much stuff comes into the picture when there’s a kid around. Otherwise id keep the basement shop and split the tooling between the basement and garage…. again not ideal. When we work on trucks in my driveway, we are constantly going down stairs for more tools, which creates wear and tear on the steps and floor. What goes UP must go back Down! what a PITA!
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4307KeymasterA couple rough scale sketches I was playing around with to get an idea of garage sizes and floor plan for the tooling. Im not crazy about the garage sizes. I’ll outgrow them in no time. The machine tools displayed are not the complete list. I still have 2 more vertical bandsaws, a Ridgid 500 pipe and bar threader, chop saw, scroll saw, 2 blacksmith anvils, 2 forges tongs hammers and tools, engine hoist, plasma cutter, a big steel welding table 3’x8′, 12″&6″ sheet metal shears, compressor, 2 more tool box top cabinets, and a 3d manual router duplicator for making gun stocks and other things. Im probably forgetting a couple tools.. LOL
Anyway, then there’s the collection of 2 sets of tires for 3 vehicles, tons of steel plate, tube, bar stock, truck parts, and a bunch of other crap. Snow blower, lawn mower, garden tools, bikes and such currently live in 2 sheds. One shed would be deleted to make room for a garage.
Looking at this “list”, I’m realizing I don’t need a garage, I need a complex.
I’ll post my house lot drawing, in a bit
*Update: added my property survey drawing. I added a proposed driveway extension, deck and biggest allowable garage as per bylaw.
Even with a 20’x30′ I’ll outgrow it immediately. Im sure the wife would like her piece of the pie.
Id sell the place and move to the country to gain more land and ideally an out building , but the real-estate prices are unattainable in this neck of the woods + the wife wouldn’t want to be farther than a 10 minute drive to the box stores and work. I’m hesitant in dumping money into a garage that would not suit my needs. I could sell some of my equipment, but I use the stuff, not as much as I could if given space… Chicken and the egg situation. Renting a space in town is ridiculously expensive and zoning for light industrial (to run a welder and insurance liability) is harder to come by as far as “small-is” unites go. Heat hydro are above and beyond rent. Besides, I want to walk 10′-20′ to a garage from my front door, not commute to a space like my current situation (40 minute drive one way)
Frustrating!!!!
4307Keymaster30×30? That’s a great size, too bad you don’t have the run of both sides of the garage.
almost all of my machine tools are on castors, and can hydraulically lift and lower to contact a full footprint on the floor. My shop is so small and the tools are too big for the space. Even with castors its hard tome and Tetris machines in the floorspace given. My lathe is not on castors because it needs to be level to avoid bed twist. Im fussy about the lathe running true. I’ll throw post some pics when I get a chance.
4307KeymasterPersonally, I do not have a garage. I dream hourly about owning a garage.
Many of you know I have a basement work shop jammed full of machine tools, to the point of not being able to work safely anymore. Ive outgrown my space years ago, and stress over my lack of space is something fearse. All of my welding is done in the driveway when weather, seasons and time align like the stars in the sky. Waiting for these so called stars to align is frustrating. Same with wrenching on my truck. My driveway has seen a lot of action through the years, many-a-rig have been lifted, fixed and modified there. We’ve had a few wrench-a-thons. But again, weather dictates as do the seasons. I’m tired of waiting around to get things done.I can’t complain to much. Having a driveway to work in can take you far. Ultimately a a garage is a way better environment to work in.
I got fed up with not having a covered space to wrench and work in, so I rented a workshop/garage. Good rental price, but quite a distance to drive if I want to play. The current situation is growing old.
Recently I was looking at out finances and realized we could build a garage in the backyard. I created a few floor plans to accommodate the machines I own and space to park the Tacoma and work on it.
Obviously the bigger the garage the better. Id build the maximum size garage I can that the city bylaws would allow. I could care less about the then limited backyard space. The wife didn’t share my ideals. Anyway long story short, due to circumstances beyond my control, the garage planning was thrown back into the dusty heap of desires. So I’m back to square one… dreaming of the day I get my garage.
It got me thinking of garage sizes. Obviously the bigger the better.. Right? But most of us are not in that situation. The biggest garage I would be allowed to build as per the bylaws would be 20’x30′. I could do quit well in a space that size. Then I looked at 16’x30′ and 20’x20′ to give us more backyard. I could squeeze in that space and still be happy… I think? Maybe not.
Anyway, it will be a long while before I can think of building.
What is your situation?
4307KeymasterHey Steve, how big is your garage?
4307KeymasterHope everyone had a great Christmas and I hope everyone has an amazing New Year.
Hopefully the TNORTT community and activities of our clan grows into something we never imagined.
4307Keymaster4307KeymasterAnyone remember this jeep, Bobcaygeon 2010? Smoked the clutch and needed a tow through the rest of the trail.
4307Keymaster2 days off 28-29th, vacation time for me. Sarah got an indefinite layoff a week and a half ago, after 10 years of service. Merry Christmas… I think?
MeRrY ChRiStMaS everyone! May TNORTT thrive and grow in the New Year.
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4307Keymaster16″x36″ 20 gage sheet metal
4307KeymasterYup. I think I can do that. I’ll get crafty again. I need more steel and paint.
4307KeymasterMark, we’re sorry to hear about your Father in Law. Give the Mrs a big hug from us.
4307KeymasterIm thinking about driving over it a couple times and throwing in a snow bank to rust, give it that extra love
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